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When using a Lumia 520 from Movistar Argentina, it worked perfectly excepting some issues (like the contacts one). But those randoms filtered SMSs you point out, or those bluetooth nightmares you lives, as a lot of things you point, never happened to me. It’s very weird.
Thanks for your comment. Do you mean to say, then, that you can access the phone’s filesystem? That you can update the maps one by one? That you find very easy to navigate the settings? That you can make Whatsapp understand it’s excluded from the battery saver, thus get incoming messages notifications? That you can add more than four items to the notification bar? Etc, etc.
When writing my article I’ve been very concerned about providing screenshots to give evidence of what I’m saying, so that readers can see that I’m not making up the issues. I mean: mostly I’m not providing opinions, but facts.
Whatta bunch of crap.
There is some truth, but this was written by a real Android fanboy, and a true WP hater.
Ofcourse there are restrictions, but the most amazing feature of this restricted, closed and utterly stupid OS as u call it is its stability. It won’t restart, or freeze, or just crash like the Crapdroid! In these 2 yrs (Lumia 920 and now 930) it has never, but never betrayed me when I needed it.
On the other hand, I was a witness when several friends of mines, all with Bugdroids couldn’t receive or make a call, because the LagDroid just didn’t feel like it. It could resume its poor performance ONLY after taking out the battery, and then booting it up again.
Now that is a serious OS, with no known bugs… Works like a charm… er… CRAP!
I understand your pain. I can imagine how silly he can feel who, having signed up for a staunch fanboyism of a losers’ bet, must now stick to it out of sheer dignity. I sympathize with you. However… torturing yourself by reading such an article as mine… masochism certainly lies beyond my understanding. So, please don’t throw out your bile here because I’m not guilty of the facts evidenced by those +50 screenshots. And please restrain your vocabulary because this is not a gym’s locker room.
I also have a Lumia 925 and I’ve never had some of the issues you post here. For example, I’ve used Whatsapp AND Facebook intensely on long trips (6 hrs approx) by bus, going through places with strong and weak signals and when I got home after the trip, I still have like 20 or 18% of battery life. Maybe it’s because I have at most 4 apps running in the background, but still that doesn’t explain why your whatsapp and viber consume so much battery.
About the data sharing feature, I think that’s carrier dependant. There are some firmwares that have restrictions in the network sharing features (mostly the ones installed by the operators) so that you buy special data sharing features from them (T-Mobile and AT&T do that). I live in Chile, and fortunately operators don’t do that here, so I can share data wifi with my laptop even when I have only 1 bar of 3G or 4G signal, Never tried that on roaming though, but I think it would have the restrictions you mention.
Advertising ID is basically a “glorified” version of “do not track” feature of modern web browsers. Nothing fancy, just that.
Phone updates behaves erratically. At least for me, sometimes it takes a looooooonnggg time to do anything, and sometimes it works really fast. Don’t know why though.
WiFi sense sucks. Period.
About contacts…eerrmm… why would I want to store the contacts on the SIM card, where it’s limited as hell? It makes sense to store the contacts on the cloud (whether it’s Google’s cloud, Yahoo’s cloud or Microsoft or whatever) and download them in your new phone rather than sending them via Bluetooth. When I bought this phone, I downloaded my contacts from my Google account (the one that I used with an Android phone) and it worked fine. In fact, you can save your contacts on the cloud and then access them on an iPhone or Blackberry with no hassle at all.
Map updates restrictions make no sense at all and I agree with you 100%. They should at least give the option to let that run in the background.
The random freezes and “resuming…” issue is a well known issue for some Lumias 925s and 1020s and it’s being fixed by Microsoft within the Denim update. My Lumia 925 doesn’t have it, but it’s because it uses a Latin American firmware and its a Latin American version (although, it is compatible with the european firmwares). If you want that issue fixed right now, you can always install the finnish firmware to your phone and then download the update, because as far as I know, the finnish firmware is the only one right now that it has the fix, but it is coming to the rest of Europe soon.
All in all, it was a honest review and that is always appreciated.
Thank you for your constructive comment.
Don’t know why Viber and Whatsapp eat so much battery compared to other apps, mostly considering that I’m always on BS mode. My main suspect is the predictive keyboard: I get the feeling it’s a power hog. The handset’s back gets really hot. Can’t tell for the difference with your experience. Perhaps not everybody IMs the same way. In any case, it’s either a WP8-IM issue or a bug in my device, which I really doubt, because everyone knows WP8 is bug-free… :-)
I know that data sharing might depend on the carrier, but it’s not the case here, because I’m using the same SIM and carrier, and testing in the same spot at the same time, yet WP8 refuses where my other three devices agree (and mark: one of them is a Nokia X, which is also a phone by Microsoft). So this is certainly a flaw, and a big one at that.
The SIM contacts discussion has been addressed countless times on forums and websites. I Wouldn’t like to retake it here. My point is really simple: I don’t like to use the cloud, and I like to have the option of using the SIM card’s memory. Call me conspiranoid if you want, I don’t mind; but there are millions like me on the planet. If Android sympathizes with us, why WP8 doesn’t? The good thing about freedom (the way I understand it) is that you can opt out: nobody’s forced to use the options, yet it’s great to have them. If someone doesn’t like SIM storage, he doesn’t have to use it; can ignore it completely. But why not make it an option? (Now I could also picture a couple scenarios where SIM storage can prove extremely useful, but I’d rather not make too long this topic. I’m just pointing out what I consider senseless restrictions.)
It’s interesting what you say about the differences between the firmwares for the random freezes. Still they evidence just another WP8 flaw: some firmwares freeze, some don’t (??) Imho, it’s unacceptable to keep people waiting for two years to get a known bug fixed–in an OS boasting being rock solid.
Thank you for explaining the Advertising id mystery. I’ve updated the article accordingly.
These so called informations of yours, the screenshots u have provided, and all the other stuff that is infact only inches away from being a lie, is a really sick propaganda.
Almost everything u made up is just an isolated issue, and can be resolved. When u were getting ur WP device, u knew that the OS is closed, and that it is a safety feature. U knew the restrictions, so did everybody else.
If some1 wats a good device, with no issues with stability, no lags, no freezes, which works by-the-book right out-of-the-box, that person should get himself a WP device, and enjoy it. An iPhone is also a good option.
On the other hand, if some1 wants to have a gazillion tweaks, and to test every now and then a new feature, but has no issus with system freezes, crashes, and other instability, that person should get Android for himself, in order to see that Hell itself isn’t the scariest place in the world.
So, to conclude myself, I love my Lumia930, I enjoy it every hour of every day, I love my Win8.1 desktop PC and my Win8.1 Lenovo tablet PC, and I love the ecosystem Microsoft has provided me. I am looking forward for Win10.
To every1 else, who loves Android, I can just give my sympathies, and pray that they abandon the way of Satan, and realise the mistakes they r making, regret themselves, and come to the rightside.
“the screenshots and all the other stuff you made up is in fact only inches away from being a lie”
LOL! And _you_ call me sick?
“I love my Lumia930, I enjoy it every hour of every day, I love my Win8.1 desktop PC and my Win8.1 Lenovo tablet PC, and I love the ecosystem Microsoft has provided me. I am looking forward for Win10.”
LOL! And _you_ call my article propaganda?
You descredit yourself, son. But three things in your comment deserve a word:
First: neither Microsoft advertises its OS’s issues and restrictions (so not everybody knows about them, as you so boldly affirm), nor the fact of knowing them means they can’t be pointed out for the general knowledge.
Second: when humans didn’t know about astronomy, they were easily fooled into believing eclipses were caused by the gods, or any other silly thing. The more ignorant someone is, the easier it gets to sell him whichever nonsense. Safety reasons is one of those mantras, a catchall obscure witchcraft for selling to the unaware consumer every sinlge bit of arbitrariness on the part of manufacturers, governments, corporations, etc.
Third: the stability blurb has been sufficiently addressed all over the internet: stability without restrictions is perfectly possible, and anything except WP8 are the evidences. Restrictions without stability is also perfectly possible, and WP8 is the evidence.
I just checked some screenshots and I noticed something. Is, by any chance, Jazztel a VMO (Virtual Mobile Operator)? Because if it is, then I can see why Windows Phone gives you trouble with internet sharing. If you use a VMO, unless the SIM card specifically states that X network is home network, it will be working in “roaming” mode.
In that mode, WP uses a bit more battery than “normal” mode because it’s constantly looking for “home” network and it imposes restrictions on data sharing. It’s obviously beneficial for the ones that are actually roaming, as it helps save money on data, but it is annoying on the people that uses VMOs. Try testing the data sharing feature with a SIM card from a “normal” operator, like Movistar or Orange. It should work just fine.
Now, this is a shared fault between the phone makers and the VMOs. Between the phone makers (in this case, Micrsoft) because they don’t acknowledge the existence of VMOs and use roaming, which inevitably uses more battery (in android you have to hack some files to make the phone understand that its not roaming, but using a VMO, and in Windows Phone there’s no luck) and fault of the VMOs because they don’t configure their system correctly.
For example, here in Chile we have different VMOs, but only two of them actually got it well done: VTR and Falabella. VTR is identified as 730-07, but the SIM card they distribute identify 730-02 network as home network which is the one they use the antennas from. From a user’s perspective and phone perspective, the phone is not roaming, but using home network, which automatically reduces a bit the battery usage and enables limitless data sharing.
Now, about the known issue… I said it is a known issue, but I didn’t say for how long. It’s been known, yes, but not for a long while. In fact, it’s been known for just a few months (iirc) and Denim update is supposed to fix that.
Really interesting information, which seems to point in the right direction. Yes, Jazztel is a VMO, and in fact with that SIM card the phone needs to be in roaming mode for getting a data connection. True, som VNOs should configure their cards better, therefore they are partly to blame. However, I still put 90% of the blame on MS because, 1st: I find unacceptable they don’t acknowledge the existence of VNO’s; 2nd: a smartphone like the Lumia 925 costs 400 dollars, and as I’m paying a lot more to MS than I’m paying to Jazztel, I also expect a lot more, considering I’m also paying their allegedly “rock solid and stable” OS; 3rd and most important: the “more battery usage in roaming mode” reason is, for me, way too weak for imposing on the user such a severe restriction as no data sharing; besides, when I insert my Polish SIM card (which, in turn, belongs to a Polish VNO!) in Spain, and therefore the phone is roaming, still WP8 accepts to share data (why not when “locally roaming”?); 4th and simplest: with Android (unhacked) I don’t have problems, with WP8 I have, so give me Android.
All of this, leaving aside the blatantly untrue error message: There is no internet connection to share at the moment. Check your settings and try again, which is a lie. The only honest message to give here would be: Sorry, but because of yet another WP8 restriction, we refuse to share your connection. Drop your provider and sign for some other we like better. :-)
But of course, thanks for posting this information. I’m modifying the article accordingly.
I’m using Lumia 1520 and I never had problem setting up a mobile hotspot when my phone was roaming (it’s “local” roaming). Back to the SD cards some of Windows Phone devices supports them Lumia 1520 is an example. When it comes to spying user I would belive MS more than Google or Apple that was discovered to store user location (http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2011/apr/20/iphone-tracking-prompts-privacy-fears) and the list goes on and on….
Apparently the “no hotspot when roaming” depends not only on WP8, but also on the SIM type. I have problems with two of my cards (WP8 refuses to create a hotspot), and no problems with other two (one of these, Polish Play, btw). However in Symbian or Android I have NO problems at all.
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